[00:00:12] Speaker A: What's worthwhile? It's a question we all need to answer for ourselves. I'm Ramsay Zimmerman. As for me, it's building mind, body, and spirit wellness. Let's ponder the big questions together as we seek peace of mind, vitality of body, and joy of spirit.
[00:00:41] Speaker B: People are more ready for it now than I think they have been in the past couple decades or beyond.
We're recognizing that there is a problem in the way that we view health, and it does require us getting down to the root cause, like Spencer was saying, and that is difficult. That means putting some skin in the game, putting in some work.
[00:01:04] Speaker C: The. The mindset that I think is worth understanding is kind of going away from this belief in, like, an external authority that is a human, whether it be me, whether it be Mason.
Don't just blindly follow what we're saying. Really test it out for yourself. See what works for you.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Hey, there. It's Ramsay here. That was Mason, Stefan, and Spencer Nellis, co founders of Ur Nature. I was so excited to talk to these guys because they are holistic health coaches for high performing individuals and businesses. And I recently began my studies in holistic health and also nutritional therapy. We talked about their business, how they got into the field, and many of the details of you are nature's seven pillars of vitality. I got the sense that Masonde digs in deep with people and that Spencer goes wide with big ideas that have major impact. I learned a lot from these guys, and I think you will, too. Let's jump in. Hey, Mason and Spencer. How you guys doing today?
[00:02:11] Speaker C: Doing great, Ramsey, doing really well. So excited to be here.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. Hey, thanks for taking the time to, to talk today. You know, I'm in this, uh, I'm in this phase of learning as much as I can about health and wellness for my own benefit and also, you know, to share with others on the podcast. And I came across your website, urnaturellc.com, and your company, nature, with a. With a capital u and a capital r in the middle.
So maybe let's start there. Like, what's the company all about? And what's with unique capitalization?
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, first, thanks for having us on. Appreciate the opportunity with our business. You are nature. The reason that the you and R is capitalized is because we really see ourselves as part of nature. Like, we are part of nature. And so that's why it's got the kind of sneaky capitalization there. Words within words, right? But, yeah, that is the reason, is because we see ourselves as part of nature.
[00:03:15] Speaker A: Very cool.
So what kind of background do you guys have? Like, how do you know each other? Why did you decide to found this company? You are nature.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: So we both grew up in the same, same town. Wanaki, Wisconsin is a suburb outside of Madison. And we went to high school together. And then both of us kind of went our separate direction. In college, I went to Minnesota Duluth. And so through the time of high school into about college, I was really battling with, um, some mental dis ease, I would say, or just some mental health problems, issues where I had a lot of high levels of anxiety and then also high levels of, or symptoms of depression. And during that time, I also was, I just wasn't very aware of the importance of health for my experience in life. Right. And so I was eating all the typical standard american diet, processed foods, not even paying attention to it, getting the snacks during passing time in high school, and just really loading up on the sugars and the carbs. I didn't even know the difference between carbs, fats, protein. And so also during the time of having some mental health issues, I was also putting on some weight. And both of those things kind of coincided with each other and my athletic ability. I played sports in high school and was recruited for play basketball in college. And so over that time, where I wasn't really prioritizing my health, my athletic ability started to deteriorate. And so that started to deteriorate the sense of identification or who I am. At the same time, in college, it was really a eye opening experience. And so I decided I got to do something about it. Like, there's some control I have over this. And so I started diving down to past simultaneously the spiritual routes got pretty ruboo with everything, and then also the exercise and nutrition route. And that route I went down more so for the aesthetics and the look side of things. But over time, I started to connect the dots and draw the connections between how your mental health and your physical health really play together to help create this beautiful symphony of health and vitality in your body.
And so started to really go down and study all things health, all things wellness related. I like to say that I went to podcast university because I just listened to and soaked up a bunch of information from podcasts. And then I got certified as a holistic health coach through the Institute of Transformational Nutrition, which I believe you're familiar with. And then I also got certified as a breath work instructor, a meditation instructor, and then a yin yoga instructor, and then got certified as a personal trainer as well. And then recently got certified as a corporate wellness specialist, so kind of put all those certificates to use here and really trying to help now others reclaim their personal health sovereignty through reconnecting with their nature and natural principles of health. And that's what all nature is, really. You are, nature is really about.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's great. Spencer, what about you?
What's your path into this business? What was your interest? What kind of made you excited about doing this?
[00:06:32] Speaker C: Yeah. So a little bit about me. I was a lot like Mason. We played on the same basketball teams. We were good friends ever since grade school.
Like Mason said, we kind of went our separate ways. I learned a lot about machine systems and the system perspective of kind of how things work. I've always been insatiably curious in my life, just really wanting to understand, you know, what's going on around us, but I kind of took a more macro perspective.
I did a lot of travel throughout my life, and immediately upon graduating school, I actually did a lot of solo travel. And I noticed a lot of things that didn't really make sense to me of how come there's a lot of disease in America and we're spending so much on health insurance and all these things, but our outcomes, they're nowhere near some of the other places I've been, and really just trying to put two and two together to see what's really going on. So I do programming with machine systems, and a lot of the concepts with how machines work are similar to our body. I'm not saying we're machines at all, because we definitely aren't, but really just putting those things together and trying to understand both the similarities as well as the differences between biological systems and machine systems to get a better understanding of how we can live well, what we're doing wrong, what's, of course, worth doing, how can we get the most vitality with the least amount of inputs and get the most vitality? So that's kind of where I come from. That's my engineering mind talking.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, so, at first, my first thought is that you guys are very complimentary. You know, you sort of have very different kind of perspectives and approaches. I can see how you guys would make a good team, and that's always really great for, you know, founders of a business to have those bases covered.
So, in terms of, like, what kinds of services do you provide to your clients? Like, from. From a big picture, like, what are you trying to help people accomplish? And, you know, what kinds of people do you often work with?
[00:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So, in terms of the clientele that we are currently working a lot with. It's a lot of busy professionals. So I'm a big fan of serving your community. And my dad is a corporate professional, and so I've grown up kind of around that community and I've noticed the effects of just the demands of that workplace or work environment. Right. And so I love to serve my community in that way. So we're working with a lot of busy professionals, high performers. Again, I was an athlete, so I know kind of the athlete grind that they, that they go through. And so with athletes working a lot, one on one, and a lot of the time I'm going to them, traveling to them and working with them through some recovery modalities, it's heavily focused on recovery. So stretching breath work, how to improve your sleep, some nutrition, principles that you can start to implement to try to improve that side of performance. And then our main kind of service that we provide is one on one health coaching to business professionals. And with that, it's focusing on helping them, like I said earlier, reclaim their personal health sovereignty and reclaim their vitality through reconnecting with natural principles of health. That's what the business is all about. And so we really go through talking about seven different pillars of health. So there's one is purpose and values. So helping them to develop a purpose as to, like, why are they here? Why? Why now? What is it inside of you that wants to become healthier, express your vitality, and then also tying this journey of improving your health to their values. Like, what will your health, what will improving your health give you in terms of your relationships with your loved ones? What will it give you in terms of your performance in work and just tying it to what they value so it becomes more real. They're reaching for something that's more real. Next pillar of health is alignment. So this comes heavy into the you are Nature aspect.
We believe a big problem that we're currently facing in our modern day. And something that's contributing a lot to the health problems we face is our disconnection from nature. Our biology has evolved with the rhythms of nature. Light and dark, night and day, the sounds of nature, the frequencies of nature, the movement of nature. And right now, we've become completely disconnected. We spend around 95% of our time indoors, and so we're not getting those environmental signals. And that can create some chaos internally, which sets us up for some chaos with our health. And so that's all about alignment, is aligning that circadian rhythm, aligning your nutritional habits to the seasons and then aligning your behaviors to your values. So that would be pillar number two, pillar number three. And this is in order, of course, pillar number three in nutrition. So that's just really focusing on the high level is just eat more whole foods, right? Start moving away from the ultra processed to the whole natural, nutritious foods. Nourish your body. And then there's movement. So just moving. We've all been told to move more throughout the day, but a lot of us think that that means getting in a steel box and going 100% all out for an hour every day, right? Killing yourself for an hour. And then the rest of the time, we don't really pay attention to it. But when I say move more throughout the day, it's flipping your perception on your environment to more. So how can we move functionally through our environment? Yes, working out every once in a while is fantastic, but getting off, up and off couches, you know, that in itself can be an exercise or a play, if you choose to see it that way. So just finding opportunities, movement opportunities throughout the day. Walking, parking your car further away from your office building and walking to the office instead of parking closer. You know, just like flipping the perception and finding a opportunities to move. So that's movement. Then there's mount stress. Stress can play a huge role, both internally, psychologically and physically. Right? So there's psychological stress that we encounter, and that affects us physically as well. So how can we see stress as an ally on this journey toward reclaiming our health? And that's not an easy way. Easier said than done. But using stress as almost something to help our growth, alchemize into our growth, instead of something that hinders our growth or keeps us stagnant, then there's connection. So connection with your Environment, connection with yourself, connection with your Loved Ones in your community, and that plays just a big. As a role in your Health. As anything else that I've talked about so far. The studies that they done with the blue zones, one of the main things that's consistent throughout all those blue zones.
[00:13:54] Speaker A: What's a blue zone?
[00:13:56] Speaker B: A blue zone is just the. I think there's seven of them. The areas on the planet where people live, there's the most centenarians, the population density of the most centenarians, or people that live above 100.
And Sardinia is one of them, Okinawa is one of them. So just around the world. And one of the constants that they find throughout all these blue zones is the social interactions that they have with each other. They're very strong socially in their relationships. And I believe that has a huge role to play in our longevity, but also just our ability to express health and vitality. And so those kind of seven pillars, and there's nuance in all of them, of course, but those are kind of high level, the seven pillars that we help people kind of work through and develop a game plan for themselves.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: No, that's awesome.
So, Spencer, with your systems thinking brain, sort of, how does that play into health and wellness? I think you started to mention a little bit that the body kind of works like a system, but why don't you talk more about that? What are some of the things that you guys express to your clients about, you know, how their body works as a system in order to help them feel better?
[00:15:21] Speaker C: That's a great question. Well, the first thing I would say is, the importance of timing and synchronization cannot be understated.
It's a lesson I've learned from machine systems. And our bodies are no different. The way that we align ourselves with the rhythms of nature is absolutely massive.
Eating a banana in the middle of December is a biological mismatch with the seasons. Our body is thinking, well, it got dark at 04:45 p.m. today, and it's ten degrees fahrenheit here in Wisconsin. How in the world did this banana get here? And that kind of ties into how centralized an industrial ag.
Although it gave us more availability of different foods and different types of foods from all over the world at different times, it's very convenient, all these things. However, it really disconnected us from eating locally and eating seasonally so that we can align what our biology is expecting to what we're actually putting into our body. And so the synchronization of seeing the, the sunrise in the morning, rather than immediately looking at our phone is very important. Seeing the sunset, this synchronization is very, very important. Sometimes with a machine system, say like a corn packing machine, it's one of the applications that I work on.
If there's just one little sensor that's misaligned or isn't getting the right signal, it can cause so many things to look as if the machine is completely not working. Like corn is flying all over the place, it's not going where it needs to go. It just looks terrible. But when you really understand the system, it could just be one little sensor, one little input that we're missing. It could just be look at the sun for five minutes every morning before looking at your phone.
And that could, you know, replace half of the petrochemical based pharmaceuticals that people are on things like that really can't be understated.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Well, that's a, that's a really interesting analogy with, you know, because let's say that you, you've got that machine and you've got corn flying all over the place. I just, I just am really enjoying that image. So let's say that you would, you would solve that problem by, you know, creating new shoots and new walls so that when the corn is bouncing off the wall, you know, it bounces back into the conveyor system. You know, that's kind of the analogy of treating the symptoms that people are experiencing instead of treating the root cause of kind of the issues that they're getting. Is that kind of the, is that kind of the point that you're getting route that you're, that you're making?
[00:18:27] Speaker C: Yep, that's exactly it. If we can get to the root cause of issues, we can, you know, instead of spending trillions and trillions on healthcare for bad results, we can spend one 100th the amount and get 100 times the output. And that's, that's what these types of ideas, this type of thinking, I think, needs to be emphasized.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: So, like Mason, when you're talking to a new client or a potential client, you know, does it take a fair amount of worldview shift in order to start thinking this way? Or do you find that people kind of already think this way or that deep down inside they know it? You know, like what, when you're first engaging with somebody, what, what kinds of things do you ask them? How do you talk to them to sort of figure out where they're at and to sort of figure out if that lines up with where you might bring them?
[00:19:31] Speaker B: Yeah, great question. Well, I do initially see, and everybody's different and coming at this from a different place. So that's first and foremost. But I do notice that it does take an initial kind of shift, but people are more ready for it now than I think they have been in the past couple decades or beyond.
We're recognizing that there is a problem in the way that we view health and mental issues, mental health, physical health, and the silo fication of those separate components of your health. Take this pill to solve this problem. And I think more people are waking up to the fact that it does require us getting down to the root cause, like Spencer was saying, and that is difficult. That means putting some skin in the game and putting in some work. It's not just going to be take these five pills at night and pills have their place I'm not saying that they don't, but to solve the issue, to get down to the root cause, it is going to require some work and some behavior change, modification. So it's really about one. The first thing is always, we get a little bit of history of each other. When I'm talking to a new client or potential client, I want to get to know them. I want to see who is in front of me, ask them questions to kind of learn more about them. I'll tell them about me as well. And then as we move forward through the session, it's. It's really about developing or discovering even their purpose. Like, why are they here? Why do I want to reclaim their health, reignite their vitality? What I said earlier, tying that into their values. And then, yeah, it does require some initial education. So a lot of the time, the first few sessions that I have with people is a lot of me asking them where they're at, where they kind of want to go. And then it's a lot of education.
I try not to fire hose a lot, but sometimes it is required because there is a lot of things we have to unlearn and relearn that we've been taught. So, yeah, initially, it's really getting to know each other, finding out why they want to be here, why they are called to it, and then letting them know the work that it's going to require, and then also letting them know that I'm with them every step of the way on this, on this path and adventure towards reclaiming their health.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's great.
It's so important to recognize that, you know, everyone's different and that you need to meet everybody where they're at.
You know, I get the sense that these kinds of health and wellness issues are, you know, I don't know if it's bigger today or if it's just more sort of amplified or if myself and others are just really aware of them more.
And certainly just within the last few years, like since the pandemic, I think people are really sort of health minded.
And then I also wonder how much of a, sort of an american phenomenon this is versus kind of what's going on in other places of the world.
Do you guys think that, is the world fundamentally different today than it was five years ago?
Is the interest and the need for health and wellness fundamentally different lately?
And then also, too, if you want to touch on sort of, you know, what, how things are here versus other places in the world.
[00:23:16] Speaker C: Yeah, very, very good question. It's a very, very complicated subject.
But I would say everything boils down to incentives. If you know the incentive structure of the system, you already know what's going to happen. And we've disconnected the liability of certain companies from the outcome of the things that they provide, whether they be pills or what have you, and this is clearly not working.
We can clearly see that the more we spend on our traditional system of molecular biology, the worse our outcomes get.
It seems like the model of molecular biology is kind of disintegrating right before our eyes. There are other places in the world that they have a different incentive structure and they have better outcomes.
One of the main things that we teach to our clients is that we are electromagnetic beings rather than simply billiard ball atoms bumping against each other.
There hasn't been a lot of funding or study for these types of ideas. This model of looking at biological systems, there's significant study overseas, is what I've noticed.
It's tough to talk about because there's a lot of interest at play that want this model to keep going. The molecular biology, etcetera. It would be quite a bit of textbooks that would need to be at least updated. And we're not saying that it's entirely wrong. It's just not as true as could be. We need an updated model, an updated frame by which we can perceive biology through. And we hope to already be where the puck is going. We can see the trends, and we're already there. People are becoming more and more open to these ideas. And, yeah, we just want to improve the lives of as many people around us, because we know that the health of those around us directly impacts our own health. So these ideas, like, this is selfish or selfless. That paradigm is kind of going away.
Your health is my health. Like, even with COVID like, we think that things that happen over in China don't affect us. Like, that's obviously not true. They very much do. It affected all of our lives in all these drastic ways. And so, yeah, we need a new model, and we're working to synthesize better information for those who are willing to come to us and learn and have some skin in the game.
[00:26:14] Speaker A: Did you want to jump in on that, Mason?
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Yeah. What he said to the electromagnetic being as seeing ourselves and our body as an electromagnetic being that is part of the. We are nature. Everything is electric.
There's just constant frequencies in our environment that we're attuning to and picking up on. And what we. We do unconsciously, I almost see is that we think of our body we don't think of our body as living that much. We think of it kind of like I was have been saying, as separate from our brain. And it's just kind of this, this sack of meat almost, that paints a bad picture. But, but you know what I'm saying. We just, we don't see it as living, but our body is a living ecosystem. We are nature at a macro level, all the way down to the micro level, as above, so below. And so when we're, well tending to our garden, to our internal ecosystem, our health is flourishing. But when we aren't, well tending to our garden, we're killing our internal soil. When we're killing our external soil, we're not as nourished. And so we can't really express the true health that we have, the potential for health that we have internally. And some of the key players, I'm going to go down a little bit of a rabbit hole here, excuse me, but some of the key players that we have in this internal ecosystem are our mitochondria and our hormones. Our mitochondria are ancient bacteria that formed a symbiotic relationship with our cells. What we think of what we learned in the 7th grade science classes at the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. And again, painting this picture of just like a brick building that's producing energy for us, but they're living and intelligent bacteria in our cells that, yes, they produce energy for us, but they also play another crucial role, and that's being environmental sensors. And through sensing our environment, those environmental inputs that we have touched on here, the four elements of major air, light, water, and then magnetism, or earth. Through those environmental inputs, they regulate the internal environment of the cells to set it up so that it can survive and thrive. And so they're huge star players here. They produce our energy, and they generate energy from input energy, food, light and water. And they turn it into ATP, carbon dioxide, heat and structured water, which we can get into, if you're interested.
But that helps us function. Everything that we are doing requires energy. Me moving right now, me breathing right now, me talking right now, it requires energy. And so these mitochondria are the things that are producing that energy for us. So a big problem that we're facing now is a lot of us have become. Our mitochondrial health is dysfunctional. Around 80% of the population, that might be a conservative estimate, is metabolically dysfunctional. The metabolism all ties back to our mitochondria. And then the other star player is our hormones. And this is the chemical messengers of our body. Most of us have heard of hormones before, things like melatonin, cortisol are two major ones.
Melatonin being the hormone of darkness. Really what I see it as is our most powerful healing hormone. It goes around the body and helps to heal cellular damage, reactive oxygen species. It starts to bring down inflammation in the body and really starts to help us heal that body. Highest concentrations, concentrations are at night, because that is when our body is going under the deepest repair and rest. And then there's cortisol, which is commonly thought of as our stress hormone. It helps to upregulate us, and it's heavily demonized in our modern culture. But we actually want cortisol elevated in the mid morning, early day portion, because we want to get crap done, right? Like we want that energy to done what we need to get done. The problem is, and here's where aligning with nature comes in. We have, our hormones operate on our circadian rhythm. Our body's constantly attuning to where it is and when it is in time and space, so it can set itself up for survival and thrival in that environment. One of the major things that it picks up on is light. Mainly through our evolution, our light source was the sun, right? We would, we wouldn't have had these light bulbs in our environment, the screens, the tvs, all the things that we have nowadays. And so we follow that rhythm of the sun and the moon, so light and dark. And nowadays we've become disconnected from that rhythm. And so we have the ability to make it eternally noon by turning on our indoor lighting, which is blue light rich, which is what the sun is when it's at solar noon. It's a lot of blue light coming from the solar spectrum. And so that's what we do when we turn on those indoor lights at night. We tell the body that it is noon outside, even though it's 10:00 at night and you're about to go to bed. And the body doesn't know the difference because the, the inputs it's picking up on is telling it that it's noon. And so then it's going to upregulate cortisol because it's like, okay, we need the energy to get crap done because it's noon, right? And it's going to downregulate the melatonin. And so now we have that. It inverses the relationship. We have elevated levels of cortisol at night. Then we feel wired and tired in the morning when we wake up, low levels of cortisol. And so this, this cycle disrupts that communication internally with those hormones. And so our two star players right now are not being maliciously attacked, but just within the environment we find ourselves in nowadays. They aren't set up for health for those two, or proper functioning of those two. And I don't. I forget your question because of the rabbit hole I went down, but I hope that answers some of it.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: Well, no, it's.
No, that's really fascinating to hear both of you guys talk because, you know, you're not describing a body as an individual. Like, it's just, it's just me. I'm just, you know, it's me instead. You're describing a body as a system, but not even just a system, but also as a whole ecosystem. You know, you're describing mitochondria as themselves alive and intelligent, and you talk about the hormone systems. And I know that we have our own internal biome of beneficial bacteria and all that stuff living in the gut, and we have all of that living in our skin.
It strikes me that you guys think about things in a really big and interesting way. It's not isolated.
It makes me wonder, kind of what else. You mentioned some spiritual stuff, too, if you're thinking of yourself and your body in this context, in these contexts of a really big context of being in nature and the world, but then also our bodies being its own universe.
Now we're getting into some interesting metaphysical questions.
You know, how does the spirit and faith, you know, does that play into those sort of worldviews and structures of being, sort of our place within a larger universe and a mitochondria's place within our body? Do you know what?
[00:33:37] Speaker C: That's a very. About that broad question. Very great question.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Sure. You can take it wherever you want.
[00:33:45] Speaker C: Great. So there's, there's a principle called as above, so below. And we're. Yeah, we are kind of the microcosm of the macrocosm. And so, like we described earlier, the things that happen on the other side of the world, they, they impact us whether we can tune into it or not.
No matter how slightly the small things they are, they're, there's still an impact. There's the butterfly effect, or whatever we want to call it. And the mindset that I think is worth understanding, or at least this process, is kind of going away from this belief in an external authority that is a human, whether it be me, whether it be mason.
Don't just blindly follow what we're saying.
Really test it out for yourself. See what works for you.
And that's really going from the belief in an external authority to the belief of something that's within, whether we want to call it the higher self.
Some people use God.
These are all just words. But the process that I think matters, and even atheist engineers would understand this, is that there's, there's voices in our heads. There's like the higher self, the lower self. And going from it's which wolf do you want to feed? Do you want to feed the wolf that's tempting us, or do we want to feed the wolf that is willing to go through a little bit of short term struggle, whether it be getting up and having the discipline to not look directly at your phone and check your email and just go look at the sun. Five minutes. Go, go. Breathe deeply, whatever that may be. Go into nature. Feel the sense of wonder and awe of how all of this could even happen. It's so beautiful. But really going from reductionist, materialist based living to more faith based living, from looking outside of ourselves, from answers to looking within, to really tune into that voice, and it might be a whisper, but it's always there and it doesn't go away. And to reconnect with that voice, I've noticed that spending time in nature has been a perfect way of doing that and reconnecting really well.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: Yeah. That is the reconnecting with nature is not just the external, right. We talk a lot about the external and like getting outside, seeing the sun moving more, but also reconnecting with yourself because you are nature. We talked about ourselves as an ecosystem. And when you're putting yourself in living environments, you get more life within you, right? So when you're putting yourself out with trees, with birds singing, there is just more life flowing through you because you are part of that environment that is full of life. But when we find ourselves in nowadays, and this might be just a more esoteric concept for some, but what we find ourselves in these just boxes, right? These prisms which we call homes. And obviously, I'm not saying that being inside your house is bad, but when you're there for 95% of your time, you're in an environment that doesn't have as much life as what our biology is expecting, what we are used to picking up on. And so through that, we start to dim ourselves down a little bit. That voice becomes a little bit quieter. We are what we see at the macro level. We are siloing ourselves, right? We're disconnecting ourselves, putting ourselves in a box instead of seeing ourselves as a as a being part of this beautiful greater whole, which we call nature.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
So what are you guys excited about these days? What are you most excited about? What are you, what are you looking forward to, you know, this fall and next year?
Related to the business, of course, but just kind of in general, what are you working on these days and what are you psyched about?
[00:37:59] Speaker B: Yeah. So a lot of the work right now that we've been doing has been one on one online in this type of capacity where it's face to face through Zoom or what have you. But we're moving towards more of a hybrid model. So we're building out a program on school and that will have follow along videos with opportunities for them, for people who are going through, for participants to design their own game plan. So it will be a lot of, like, set up questions as to how much time you think you can commit to a practice. What practice resonates the most with you? How long do you want to experiment with it? So on. And so they design their own game plan with a few leading questions. And then throughout that program, they'll have check in calls, one on one with me or with Spencer. And with that as well, there's more of a community aspect. So there's spots in school where people can talk to each other and like, group posts or community posts, so people of like, mind can share ideas, what's working for them, what's not working for them, and so on. So that's taken up a lot of our time, but I'm really excited to see how that kind of evolves and grows over the next few years.
[00:39:06] Speaker C: And to piggyback off that longer term, we plan on making a type of, I don't know if you want to call it a retreat center, but we plan on purchasing land, putting structures on it, making saunas and cold tubs and an apothecary, a mini farm, outdoor gym, doing biodynamic farming, eating locally and as locally as you can get. Like, what is the definition of local? Is it 100 miles away? Is it a thousand? Is it on this continent? It's so subjective. If we can start eating things that we grow and we know that they weren't sprayed with glyphosate, which disconnects us from our gut, it breaks the what is it? Mason probably knows a bit better, but it seems to be a cause of autoimmune issues and things like that. So really getting our sourcing of our nutrition to be on point, creating an environment that is not only beautiful and gorgeous in a place that people would want to go, but also electromagnetically connected to earth.
Minimize the amount of non native emfs. I've noticed when I work with these machines, I get the flu all the time. On the last trip, I actually got the flu twice, and I always end up getting sick when I'm near these machines that are just drawing immense amount of energy under fluorescent lights.
It takes me a while to recover from this, and it's something I'm becoming more in tune with. I want to do experiments with our environment to really see how great of an environment we can, we can make that's conducive to health, to wellness, to well being, so that we can be of service to as many people as possible.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: Yeah, that sounds awesome. That sounds really great.
Is there anything else that you'd like to sort of COVID or that you'd like people to sort of leave with? Some things that you really want to kind of drive home for folks?
[00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I feel like a lot of this talk, which has been great, has been a lot of out there concepts. Right? It's been, yeah.
Not esoterical, but stuff that's out there. It's not as connected to the physical. And so I want to leave the viewers with some value that they can incorporate or integrate into their own life. And that is being aware of the four elements of nature in your life, the air, light, water, and magnetism, or earthen. So with air, just focus on calming that breath down. A lot of us are running so high on stress, and there's so much to deal with, and I know that there is, and that's real. But taking. Taking a moment each day to just feel and be grateful for the in breath feel and be grateful for the out breath and relax into it. See how deep you can relax into it with light. Trying to. A real practice that I. This is the first practice I start with all of my clients, no matter where they are or what they're doing, is get outside before you look at your phone in the morning. So getting that morning light helps to do so many things. We. We can go into the science at a later date if we want to, but getting outside and viewing that morning light would really help to set that circadian rhythm and get everything in alignment. And then with water trying to source high quality water. So whether that's a filter or whatnot, our tap water is filled with these SSRI's. These water has infinite memory, so everything that it comes in contact with, it will hold in itself. So we're drinking all of that when we're drinking the tap water. So at least investing in a high quality filter and then putting or adding minerals back into the water. The water that we're used to drinking, evolutionarily speaking, has minerals in it. So it has salt, it comes in contact with minerals. And so adding high quality salt, just a pinch back into your water is a great way to start to rehydrate yourself, your cells and your body. And then magnetism. So this would be, I'll hit you with the common eat more or eat less? Move more. But when I say eat less, I mean eat less.
Ultra processed food. And then when I say move more, I'm talking about moving more throughout your day in ways that brings you more energy. One of the main benefits of moving more is the energy that it gives you, the blood flow going through your body. And so, yes, move intensely, maybe three times a week, get a lift in or get some functional movement in, a training session in, but then also moving more throughout the day. Finding opportunities to incorporate more movement in your day is a great place to just kind of start and then let yourself go down the rabbit hole from there. What Spencer was talking about earlier, listen to yourself, your own internal authority, and let that be your guide as you move through this adventure towards reclaiming your personal health, sovereignty, and reconnecting with nature.
[00:44:18] Speaker C: Exactly. And piggybacking off what Mason said. I would say keep questioning things. Never conclude, never think you know everything. We're all on an adventure together towards more towards truth, more towards vitality, more towards sovereignty.
I'd say continue listening to what's worthwhile. I think it's wonderful and I think what you do is great. So keep going.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: How can people get in touch with you guys?
[00:44:49] Speaker B: Yeah, so we have a website. It is urnaturellc.com dot. That's the letter u, the letter rnaturellc.com. and there is kind of. That's our central hub. So you can find programs that we've made on teachable, which is self guided. So you go through it by yourself. You can find some starter kits that are totally free. Just sign up for a newsletter that you can opt out of at any time, and you'll get some starter kits that will kind of send you down or get you started on this adventure. And then there's also a spot where you can look more into our one on one services and choose to sign up for a discovery call if you wish.
[00:45:31] Speaker A: Well, that's great.
I just really appreciate you guys so much.
You know, it's been great talking and also just the way that you guys think about things in a really big way at the same time that you think of it in a really tight, personal, focused way.
I just think that's really terrific. And I wish you guys the best of luck with your current clients and future clients and building that beautiful, sustainable organic farm homestead sometime in the near future. So it's been great. Thank you guys so much.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: Thank you, Ramsey. Really appreciate you.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: All right. Right on.
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